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Trump hires the best people

By Tim Aurora follow Tim Aurora   2019 Jun 19, 1:29pm 966 views   62 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    


This is the man who proclaimed that he hired the best people. It seems that "best people" do not want to get hired by Trump. Flynn, Manafort, .Trump's lawyers



https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/06/19/how-hard-up-is-president-trump-staffing-his-administration-pretty-hard-up/?utm_term=.c5d8b23b7ae5&wpisrc=nl_everything&wpmm=1



Trump's Lawyers
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/05/magazine/all-the-presidents-lawyers.html

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25   Tim Aurora   ignore (3)   2019 Jul 29, 10:02am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HonkpilledMaster says
The real question is why did Stonetear, Lisa Page, etc. get immunity. What did they trade immunity for?

It's very strange for investigators/prosecutors to give immunity in return for nothing - unless they want to protect friendly allies in an investigation meant to be a bogus whitewash.


Irrelevant to the current topic. Start a new topic on them and then argue that,
26   CornPoptheOriginalGangster   ignore (5)   2019 Jul 29, 10:04am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says
Libtard Schmibtard you can't be that dumb. There's no war against Trump. MSM loves Trump. You don't believe something just because this cult figurehead says so do you? That's retarded. Do you hand over independent thinking so easily?


Classic Gaslighting Statement right there.

Tim Aurora says
Irrelevant to the current topic. Start a new topic on them and then argue that,


Absolutely relevant, given how this thread has evolved right from the first reply.
27   Tim Aurora   ignore (3)   2019 Jul 29, 10:15am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HonkpilledMaster says
Tim Aurora says
Irrelevant to the current topic. Start a new topic on them and then argue that,


Absolutely relevant, given how this thread has evolved right from the first reply.


The current topic is Trump hirings have been bad and many of the smart people in his cabinet have left because they are unable to deal with his stupidity, no focus , sycophancy and plain out lies. It is not that I cannot answer your questions, it is just that as an OP , I want this thread to be focused on that otherwise like Trump we will all become unfocused and will be chatting all over the place.
28   Quigley   ignore (2)   2019 Jul 29, 10:42am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tim Aurora says
many of the smart people in his cabinet have left


Weren’t these the same people you were calling swamp creatures and extolling their character flaws and obnoxious personal histories before they resigned?
Do you have a point? Or is this just more ORANGEMANBAD?
29   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2019 Jul 29, 10:56am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tim Aurora says
I want this thread to be focused

Good luck with that.

Best is relative at best.
30   Tim Aurora   ignore (3)   2019 Jul 29, 12:25pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Trump either hired too dumb people that he had to fire due to their incompetency or he could not get along with smart people.

Some were being called smart people such as Mattis, Coates, Pompeo , Mnuchin , Perdue , Mulveny., Kelly, Haley . He could not work with many of these smart people

Some were dumb or too corrupt to start such as Barr, Ross, Price, Perry, Betsy , Linda with so with them the question remains as to why were they hired,




Quigley says

Weren’t these the same people you were calling swamp creatures and extolling their character flaws and obnoxious personal histories before they resigned?
31   socal2   ignore (1)   2019 Jul 29, 12:36pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tim Aurora says
Trump either hired too dumb people that he had to fire due to their incompetency or he could not get along with smart people.


You have to consider that we had Hillary and the lapdog Media calling Trump a Russia asset within days of winning the election - so why would Republicans and Never-Trumpers want to be tied to an administration that they thought would be impeached within the first few months?

Even the total hacks at Politifact admit that it is "half true" that Democrats have done a bang-up job slow walking and blocking many of Trump's appointments.
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/mar/16/donald-trump/why-trump-appointments-have-lagged-behind-other-pr/

Who wants to sit through Senate hearing with total morons like Kamala Harris and Corey Booker calling you a racist rapist like they did with Kavanaugh?
32   WookieMan   ignore (4)   2019 Jul 29, 2:35pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tim Aurora says
Trump either hired too dumb people that he had to fire due to their incompetency or he could not get along with smart people.


Which President in your lifetime has hired the smartest and best people? And how have these hirings and firings actually influenced anything you do on a day to day basis? If you have a retirement account, you can't complain about that.

Obama could barely get the Dow back to prior peak levels in his two terms. Yes, there was a fucked up situation, but his smart people sure did take a long time to figure out what to do. Almost a solid 8 years.

Bush, well, I think most of us will agree Bush was a disaster. Seems like a nice guy though I guess.

I'm too young to fully comprehend Clinton. But he rode the wave of the internet becoming more mainstream and boomers entering their prime income earning years. The dumbest people weren't going to stop that growth.

Too much weight is put on what the President does. You've got a president that many in the Republican party hate him and the Democrats outright despise him. I can't really complain about the economy and anyone I know that is honest doesn't either. What is the actual problem? What has gotten worse for anyone here, not emotionally, that the president caused as an individual in that position?
33   Quigley   ignore (2)   2019 Jul 29, 2:57pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Trump keeps on triggering people by refusing to accept a liar’s version of reality! People who have carefully constructed world views which cast themselves as the healthy at every size, trans-activist, gynocentric HEROES of their own personal demesne are extremely vulnerable to healthy doses of the Truth which is that they are not special but broken, not heroic but whiny, and not oppressed but merely stupid and lazy.
That kind of truth is like Saharan sunlight to a vampire. It absolutely destroys them!
34   FortWayneIndiana   ignore (4)   2019 Jul 29, 3:18pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

It is amazing how much Trump gets done. Left tries to hide that fact, but Trump is like a machine just getting things done one by one. You won't hear about that on liberal media, they spend all time too busy trying to program their cohorts to hate Trump using trigger words. Liberals like to live in the fantasy world, not reality. Just tell those snowflakes that Trump is getting things done and point out the facts, they'll just ignore reality and scream about some irrelevant shit.

Trump is a great president!
35   Tim Aurora   ignore (3)   2019 Aug 25, 2:00pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WookieMan says
Obama could barely get the Dow back to prior peak levels in his two terms. Yes, there was a fucked up situation, but his smart people sure did take a long time to figure out what to do. Almost a solid 8 years.


You digress but I can tell you that during the Trump administration the increase in DOW is around 25% which almost equal to the 20% tax break that Trump gave ( tax rate went from 35% to 21% , meaning that the retention rate went from 65% to 78% ). Deficit has again crossed 1 Trillion in a healthy economy. Seems like we again need a democrat President to bail out a GOP President
36   WookieMan   ignore (4)   2019 Aug 26, 4:37am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tim Aurora says
WookieMan says
Obama could barely get the Dow back to prior peak levels in his two terms. Yes, there was a fucked up situation, but his smart people sure did take a long time to figure out what to do. Almost a solid 8 years.


You digress but I can tell you that during the Trump administration the increase in DOW is around 25% which almost equal to the 20% tax break that Trump gave ( tax rate went from 35% to 21% , meaning that the retention rate went from 65% to 78% ). Deficit has again crossed 1 Trillion in a healthy economy. Seems like we again need a democrat President to bail out a GOP President


Stop with the tax cuts man. Any high earning W-2 employee with high property taxes or income taxes got whacked this year, big time in many cases. These are the people that are actually bringing in the tax revenue. CA, IL, NY, NJ, etc. It was intentional. Trump wanted to hit high tax blue states and give tax cuts to the average American. The roadmap is obvious as flies eating shit. He's trying to swing traditionally blue states and keep the economy pumping.

I frankly consider it a handout to the middle class (and yes big corps too) which I can't stand. I'm biased living in IL. I actually have low property taxes somehow, but high income tax. Getting capped at $10K itemizing SALT hurt my tax situation this year 100%. I paid more than previous years. The tax cuts are being funded by limousine liberals for the most part if you truly look at it and think about it.

And stop with the debt. It's never getting paid back. We all know this. It's a management issue at this point to not completely let it runaway. And if it does, it doesn't matter. Our guns are bigger than everyone else combined. Not a cheery outlook, but it's reality.
38   WookieMan   ignore (4)   2019 Sep 10, 1:30pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tim Aurora says
Another one gone

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-fires-national-security-advisor-john-bolton-over-disagreements-on-key-policy-matters


And why are you upset over this? You want war? That's what Bolton wants(ed). Bad hire, good decision to fire. Or Trump could have just done what other politicians have in the past and just let 'em do what they want. I still don't understand the OP point and end goal.... You liked Bush? You liked getting entangled in senseless bull shit in other countries?

I'm fine with people hating Trump, it comes with the territory, but the hiring and firing of people should be applauded. You hire a dip shit, you fire them. Don't feel bad about it, move forward. You seem to insinuate that Trump should keep dead weight around like other administrations have in the past (hell, all of history). There's no logic to that point of view.
39   OccasionalCortex   ignore (4)   2019 Sep 10, 1:52pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tim Aurora says
Another one gone

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-fires-national-security-advisor-john-bolton-over-disagreements-on-key-policy-matters


What is your fixation on all this? No different than when Obama fired Shrillary.

"But! But! Hillary RESIGNED!"

Yeah, so did Bolton.
40   OccasionalCortex   ignore (4)   2019 Sep 10, 1:53pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Watch the media do a total 180 on Bolton and start treating him like a 'wise statesman' now. Just because they smell blood between him and Trump...never mind that the blood was all made up by their fellow cohorts in said media.
41   Tim Aurora   ignore (3)   2019 Sep 10, 1:54pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

OccasionalCortex says
Yeah, so did Bolton


That is why he did not say if he was fired or he resigned.
42   Tim Aurora   ignore (3)   2019 Sep 10, 1:56pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

OccasionalCortex says
What is your fixation on all this? No different than when Obama fired Shrillary.

"But! But! Hillary RESIGNED!"

Your facts are in the air like Trump.

You digress but Hillary, Nikki Haley and some others planned their departure months in advance. Hillary resigned to run for President and in fact Obama supported her presidential run. On Bolten, wait for his all revealing book ready to criticize Trump
43   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (43)   2019 Sep 10, 2:03pm     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Obama refused to eat the CRUST! on IHLary's CUNT!
44   CornPoptheOriginalGangster   ignore (5)   2019 Sep 10, 2:51pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

You know it was a good move because:

Mitt Romney ‘Very Unhappy’ with John Bolton’s Firing

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/09/10/mitt-romney-very-unhappy-with-john-boltons-firing-suggests-john-bolton-as-replacement/

OccasionalCortex says
Watch the media do a total 180 on Bolton and start treating him like a 'wise statesman' now. Just because they smell blood between him and Trump...never mind that the blood was all made up by their fellow cohorts in said media.


Fact Check: TRUE
45   CornPoptheOriginalGangster   ignore (5)   2019 Sep 10, 2:55pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tim Aurora says
Hillary resigned to run for President and in fact Obama supported her presidential run.


Where's Obama's endorsement of his Vice President?
46   Tim Aurora   ignore (3)   2019 Sep 11, 6:14am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HonkpilledMaster says
Where's Obama's endorsement of his Vice President?


He will endorse the winner of the primary.
47   Tenpoundbass   ignore (15)   2019 Sep 11, 6:26am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HonkpilledMaster says
Where's Obama's endorsement of his Vice President?


Biden keeps dropping tells that he's being coached by Obama. The phrasing and his choice of words, his petty jabs. "Donald Hump... Freudian Slip!" he's borderline senile, his mind isn't fast enough nor sharp enough to shift gears like that. Had that been an actual slip up, and not written in his speech. He would have never caught it, he never catches any of his gaffes.
"Come on MAN! Come on MAN!" that's Obama's favorite stand by to diminish criticism that Obama can't intelligently debate. That's why Obama did better at town halls, doing def Comedy Jams. When he had to pull it together and address the nation like a President. He was a condescending Jack Ass to over half of the nation while he divided the country with his toxic rhetoric he always got a pass on. If you listen to Biden's message as his momentum grows. It's more and more turning into Obama's platform. Obama is coaching him, Obama has his hand on the hand that has the Emperors thumb at the DNC and Pollsters to make sure they don't give Biden a thumbs down.

Obama is Biden's corner man, every time Biden takes a beating and we think his last gaffe was his final undoing. He comes back with more channeling Obama.
Remember Obama is a petty jive bitch ass, he never does anything with transparency on the up and up. Not even endorse his patsy.

And Obama is doing all of this, not because he loves Biden's sense of leadership. Obama is slated to be his running mate. Just as Hillary is slated to be Warren's running mate.
They want their turns and they are going to ride in half dead corpses to get there.
49   HeadSet   ignore (2)   2019 Sep 11, 7:10am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

And Obama is doing all of this, not because he loves Biden's sense of leadership. Obama is slated to be his running mate.

Obama as Biden's running mate? Is this like Putin-Medvedev taking turns?
50   Tim Aurora   ignore (3)   2019 Sep 11, 9:58am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HeadSet says
And Obama is doing all of this, not because he loves Biden's sense of leadership. Obama is slated to be his running mate.

Obama as Biden's running mate? Is this like Putin-Medvedev taking turns?


Total Bullshit but we digress from the topic. If you want to talk the ticket start a new thread and we can discuss that there.
51   Tim Aurora   ignore (3)   2019 Sep 11, 10:01am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

OccasionalCortex says
What is your fixation on all this? No different than when Obama fired Shrillary.

"But! But! Hillary RESIGNED!"

Yeah, so did Bolton.


Bolten and Trump disagree on that.

Gaslighting on Hillary
52   WookieMan   ignore (4)   2019 Sep 11, 10:08am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tim Aurora says
HeadSet says
And Obama is doing all of this, not because he loves Biden's sense of leadership. Obama is slated to be his running mate.

Obama as Biden's running mate? Is this like Putin-Medvedev taking turns?


Total Bullshit but we digress from the topic. If you want to talk the ticket start a new thread and we can discuss that there.


Tim, it's a forum. Conversation ebbs and flows. A point was brought up that Obama let people go and/or they resigned. Trump has had people fired and/or resigned. What is the difference? For some reason, because it's Trump, it's a problem.

Here's the deal. I don't know you. But presumably you can run for office and hire and fire whoever you want. My suggestion is to stop complaining and you can just fix what you deem is a problem, Trump. Run for president. Whether it's left or right leaning people, bitching on Patnet ain't solving a thing in your world. You seem to have the solutions to all that is wrong with the country, go ahead and step up and fix it then.
53   Tim Aurora   ignore (3)   2019 Sep 11, 10:57am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WookieMan says
HeadSet says
And Obama is doing all of this, not because he loves Biden's sense of leadership. Obama is slated to be his running mate.

Obama as Biden's running mate? Is this like Putin-Medvedev taking turns?


Total Bullshit but we digress from the topic. If you want to talk the ticket start a new thread and we can discuss that there.


Tim, it's a forum. Conversation ebbs and flows. A point was brought up that Obama let people go and/or they resigned. Trump has had people fired and/or resigned. What is the difference? For some reason, because it's Trump, it's a problem.


Obama running on Biden ticket is totally off topic
54   Tim Aurora   ignore (3)   2019 Sep 11, 11:17am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WookieMan says
Tim, it's a forum. Conversation ebbs and flows. A point was brought up that Obama let people go and/or they resigned. Trump has had people fired and/or resigned. What is the difference? For some reason, because it's Trump, it's a problem.


Yes people come and go but mostly they are planned departures just like Nikki Haley left the Trump administration. Trump has fired so many people that at this point it is clear that

1. He does not get along with smart people
2. He does not know whom to hire
3. He is totally stupid and people just tire of him
55   komputodo   ignore (2)   2019 Sep 11, 11:19am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tim Aurora says
he sold his soul to the devil and hired Russia. 1. He does not get along with smart people
2. He does not know whom to hire
3. He is totally stupid and people just tire of him

Definitely impeachable offenses!.
56   Tim Aurora   ignore (3)   2019 Sep 11, 11:24am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WookieMan says

Here's the deal. I don't know you. But presumably you can run for office and hire and fire whoever you want. My suggestion is to stop complaining and you can just fix what you deem is a problem, Trump. Run for president. Whether it's left or right leaning people, bitching on Patnet ain't solving a thing in your world. You seem to have the solutions to all that is wrong with the country, go ahead and step up and fix it then.


As you earlier said, this is a forum where we get to voice our opinions, including criticizing our leaders ( Trump, Obama, Hillary , Bush or whomever you choose) . Of course, I am unhappy with Trump's performance, his beliefs and behaviour. My goal is to get a Democrat elected and I will work on that including voice my opinion here. Patnet gives me a place where I can understand the other side's view.

BTW, I am not a leading political poster, and this forum has many Trump supporters.
57   komputodo   ignore (2)   2019 Sep 11, 11:44am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tim Aurora says
My goal is to get a Democrat elected and I will work on that including voice my opinion here.

Why does it need to be a democrat? I think most americans would like a great leader, irregardless of the political party.
58   Tim Aurora   ignore (3)   2019 Sep 11, 3:23pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

komputodo says
Why does it need to be a democrat? I think most americans would like a great leader, irregardless of the political party.


Actually , I would be OK with some Republican like McCain ( who is no more) but rest of them have already chosen Party over country
59   jazz_music   ignore (13)   2019 Sep 12, 1:50pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

komputodo says
Why does it need to be a democrat?
Republican cultists this way have a boogeymen for their propaganda empire to attack.

Beauty queen / COMMENTATORS on Fox News must have a scapegoat to make faces, laugh, bullytalk about while they're flashing their legs at you.

The fact is
IT COULD BE ANYONE WHO CAN DEFEAT REPUBLICAN LIES AND PROPAGANDA, VOTER ROLL PURGING, GERRYMANDERING, ELECTION MACHINE HACKING, AND POLLING PLACES RESTRICTED AND CLOSED IN POORER AREAS. OH YEAH AND THEIR FUCKING ARMIES OF FASCIST DIPSHIT INTERNET TROLLS TOO.
60   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2019 Sep 12, 1:54pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tim Aurora says

1. He does not get along with smart people
2. He does not know whom to hire
3. He is totally stupid and people just tire of him

4. He's your president until 2024
61   SunnyvaleCA   ignore (0)   2019 Sep 12, 3:45pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WookieMan says
I frankly consider it a handout to the middle class (and yes big corps too) which I can't stand. I'm biased living in IL. I actually have low property taxes somehow, but high income tax. Getting capped at $10K itemizing SALT hurt my tax situation this year 100%. I paid more than previous years. The tax cuts are being funded by limousine liberals for the most part if you truly look at it and think about it.

My income was right in that "sweet" spot where I lost SALT deductions due to AMT before the Trump plan. Under the Trump tax cuts, with much less aggressive AMT schedule, I actually saved money. That's right, a standard deduction of $12k was better deal than $60k of SALT deductions but more aggressive AMT. I actually plugged my 2018 numbers into TurboTax 2017 and saw that those same numbers produced higher taxes in 2017 than in 2018.
62   SunnyvaleCA   ignore (0)   2019 Sep 12, 3:53pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

socal2 says
You have to consider that we had Hillary and the lapdog Media calling Trump a Russia asset within days of winning the election - so why would Republicans and Never-Trumpers want to be tied to an administration that they thought would be impeached within the first few months?

Even the total hacks at Politifact admit that it is "half true" that Democrats have done a bang-up job slow walking and blocking many of Trump's appointments.
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/mar/16/donald-trump/why-trump-appointments-have-lagged-behind-other-pr/

Who wants to sit through Senate hearing with total morons like Kamala Harris and Corey Booker calling you a racist rapist like they did with Kavanaugh?

And, followers of Mad Max physically harassing you "wherever you go."

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