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2nd Amendment Discussion

By CajunSteve follow CajunSteve   2018 Feb 17, 11:51am 49,512 views   390 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    

With all the talk about the school shootings, let's take a look at what the 2nd Amendment actually says:

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Couple things to note in there:

1. The specific mention of a militia being the reason for the need to bear arms.
2. The 2nd Amendment never mentions the word gun at all.

So, what exactly is the definition of "arms"?

In 1755 Dr. Johnson’s Dictionary of the English Language was first published. It defined “arms” as “weapons of offence, or armour of defence.”

Weapons of offence would seem to include pretty much anything and everything, from knives to nuclear weapons. The US has already seen fit to ban some weapons of offence so the 2nd Amendment clearly has not been interpreted strictly as meaning that the US cannot ban all "arms". Therefore, the 2nd Amendment does not guarantee citizens the right to own whatever weapons they choose.

So it then becomes a question of which weapons should be banned, which should be strictly regulated, and which should be lightly regulated or not at all. Like anything else, we should weigh an individual's right with society's right. When looked at in that manner, it becomes very difficult to justify why fully automatic or semi automatic rifles should be allowed. What purpose do they serve an individual? And why would that purpose outweigh the extreme damage those weapons have cased society??

Patrick thinks the Chamber of Commerce is the worst organization, and he may be correct, but the NRA is not far behind.

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359   Rin   ignore (7)   2019 Sep 29, 3:25pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Booger says
we ignore their gun laws

First of all, the system has consistently failed to toss real criminals in jail for illegally owning a firearm, since by virtue of having a criminal record, gun ownership by a crook is illegal.

So if the cops & DA offices can't enforce pre-existing laws, why create new ones?
364   BlueSardine   ignore (3)   2019 Oct 20, 6:33am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

deepcgi says
What “militia” may I join which is not the US military or local police?
365   BlueSardine   ignore (3)   2019 Oct 20, 6:38am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

This is the jist of trumps presidency. Libbyfucks pick and choose which laws they will follow. It's a bitch when the tables are turned.
Russian collusion? Too bad.
Improper use of office for political gain? Tough shit
You reap what you sow. .
Booger says
Never give up your guns. Ignore all gun laws passed by any Democrat. They ignore immigration laws, we ignore their gun laws.
367   TEOTWAWKI   ignore (5)   2019 Oct 20, 8:39am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Booger says

What's funny, the above is not a machine gun per legal definition.
368   rocketjoe79   ignore (2)   2019 Oct 21, 8:11am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The wildly successful Venezuelan model of socialism.
371   HEYYOU   ignore (47)   2019 Dec 13, 11:16am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The 2nd Amendment shall not be infringed regardless of how many Republicans ,their family members & friends die from gunfire.
372   Booger   ignore (5)   2019 Dec 24, 2:24pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Banning modern semi-auto firearms will NOT stop the killing. Instead guns are either a) smuggled in, b) illegally made, c) stolen from law enforcement and military. Mexico is prime example of a and c. Australia and UK are a and b. Anyone can make handguns and simple sub machine guns from online plans. No special skill or parts required. Look up Luty guns and expedient firearms.
374   rd6B   ignore (1)   2019 Dec 24, 2:38pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Any of you coming to South Texas should try this:

375   HEYYOU   ignore (47)   2019 Dec 24, 5:27pm     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Republics doing nothing will not prevent RepCons' loved ones from being maimed & murdered by # 3's 2nd Amendment Solution.
Republics will do nothing no matter how many RepCons' loved one are killed by firearms in the hands of illegals,Democrats,blacks,legal RepCon loved Saudis.

Sorry! I mistakenly opened your Christmas present of reality.
377   Booger   ignore (5)   2020 Jan 1, 7:05am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag

New York UN Office Recruits Paramilitary Troops for ‘Disarmament’ and ‘Reintegration’ of US Civilians
378   NoCoupForYou   ignore (3)   2020 Jan 1, 12:46pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Opinion: Jack Wilson is exactly the type of person you want around with a gun because he's a firearms instructor. But we know nothing about the at least six other parishioners who also appeared to draw their handguns. And that's terrifying.

— USA TODAY (@USATODAY) January 1, 2020

Also Left:
379   just_dregalicious   ignore (2)   2020 Jan 1, 2:28pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

NoCoupForYou says
Also Left:

All those fuck faces blocking traffic. Looks like the SF bay bridge heading to Oakland.

Man I'm glad I moved away from that shithole area.
381   SunnyvaleCA   ignore (1)   2020 Jan 2, 3:14pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The last time someone asked about my thoughts on gun control I simply recommended using both hands for better control. Can't really argue with that!
382   rd6B   ignore (1)   2020 Jan 2, 5:11pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

NoCoupForYou says

Opinion: Jack Wilson is exactly the type of person you want around with a gun because he's a firearms instructor. But we know nothing about the at least six other parishioners who also appeared to draw their handguns. And that's terrifying.

— USA TODAY (@USATODAY) January 1, 2020

Also Left:

Fucking idiot who wrote the article should be waterboarded as a minimum. First, Kinnunen was let off a few times before for violent crimes. Why this is not discussed in article? Imprisonment of the shooter would have saved several lives, incl his own. Second, we do know that six other parishioners drawing guns have undergone training required by state of Texas. Fuck journalists - their bias and stupiduty know no bounds
384   NoCoupForYou   ignore (3)   2020 Jan 4, 7:27am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

rd6B says
Fuck journalists - their bias and stupiduty know no bounds

387   TEOTWAWKI   ignore (5)   2020 Jan 19, 9:51am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Booger says

Ha, it's even more ridiculous than that: in order to make AR-15 into "non-assault-rifle" configuration all you need to do is to remove the flash hider, replace rear pistol grip with a slightly more raked one and pin the collapsible stock in the extended position. Done.
390   HEYYOU   ignore (47)   2020 Feb 17, 4:06pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Florida RepCon scum pass "Red Flag" gun laws.
They will take your "Arms" & your freedom.
Are there no men in the GOP? Why do they allow big govt. Fla. RepCons to infringe on the Bill of Rights?

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